he hasn't taken the cogs. I'll read over it and get back to u when more time I have. If you do the quest for Arniel Gane at the College of Winterhold he will help you explain it better. That it would go catastrophically wrong was the second most likely outcome - the most likely being that nothing would happen. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. He was missing 2 items, one was barely working, he was using a warped soul gem, he lacks the Dwemer genius and tonal architecture knowledge. Hmm, interesting, as well as somewhat sinister. He should immediately use the dagger for some magic and he will "explode," dropping the dagger on the floor. That's why we can now summon his ghost. The Dragonborn will witness this unexpected occurrence, when given the spell to summon the apparition, which is called Summon Arniel's Shade. The surprising thing is that anything happened at all. I brought 10 dwemer cogs to Arniel Gane in my inventory. I don't know what either of those words mean, but they seemed to fit. Summon Arniel's Shade is a Conjuration spell that summons the Shade of Arniel Gane to aid you in combat. He leads an excavation at the tomb of Saarthal and will hope to experiment with Kagrenac's tools, the latter of which he is highly secretive of. The Gem duplicated in the second convector, leave one in the convector and go to the third convector (even though it says Return the gem to Arniel, remember you've only used two.) Kagrenac turned the ignition on a prototype car with some unusual additions and got an unexpected result. Notes . So the theory goes that when Arniel hit the thing with the other thing, his soul leapt to the closest divine thing, which happened to be The Last Dragonborn, being a shard of Aka (and also a Shezzarine in some theories). New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Allow me a moment to just describe Sunder and Keening. Wacking a soulgem with Keening and then...The ending of it was a bit of a conundrum, eh? To leave it as a matter of Keening as this soul-binding thing without further implication is not going to cut it. This may not have a real answer, but any reasonable speculation would be appreciated. Arniel's understanding was lacking. Hmm. I explained why a long time ago, so if you would just let me find a quote... Arniel Gane was hopelessly out of his depth. Honestly, Arniel Gane disappeared because that's what happened to the Dwemer so … ooohhh… mystery. Arniel Gane had one of these tools, which, given that he didn't die by simply holding it without Wraithguard, was clearly broken. As I was playing a bit of Skyrim, I was taking part in a bit of an interesting quest. I suspect Bethesda want to leave the exact reasons for Dwemer Disappearance (and thus Arniel's disappearance) a mystery, because it's just that, a fantastic mystery. and why they disappeared. Arniel Gane didn't share a telepathic link with anyone or anything so only he was removed from existence. Arniel Gane is a non playable character that appears in the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. If he doesn't, there are some known bugs with the scene: He's suggested that there may be more I can help with in the future. /r/teslore is a subreddit dedicated to the discussion and creation of the vast lore of The Elder Scrolls. Twin Souls only works if Arniel's Shade is summoned first. Still, I suppose you could say that Arniel cut himself out of the Dragonborn's dragon break. 200: I've given Arniel Gane the Dwarven cogs he asked for, and he was quite grateful. Dead. Once you have entered, ask Tolfdir what you can do to help and he will say: "Ah, yes. ), Arniel succeeded in binding himself to the nearest divine being - the Dragonborn. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. He takes all the rings from you, but he is more concerned with the mess you have made than with the new artifacts, and does not give you any reward (not even a boost to his disposition). Summoner, Atromancy and Necromancy have no effect. Press J to jump to the feed. Unless their thralls look like Wrathmen (? Transmogrification is the total change of form, generally used to denote transformation from human to non-human, typically animal but generally "grotesque". A shade, a shadow of what was once Arniel Gane. Gane used only one. Both disappeared. Follow the walkways to the other side. I say partially as he doesn't really seem to have much intelligence after the fact. Also upgrades Arniel\\'s abilities. While its never explicitly revealed/confirmed what exactly happened, they disappeared after Kagrenac used his tools on the Heart of Lorkhan. They are trapped in an area very similar to what the Catholic call "Purgatory" and they lost their physical form. They were trying to build there own mechanical God, by doing so they accidentally sent themselves to a different dimension. His body was annihilated and he had his soul bound to the LDB since he's basically a living soul gem. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If summoned second, it will replace the first summon. He knew exactly WHAT the dwemer did, just didn't understand the (meta)physics behind the whole process. When the Dwemer disappeared, it was on account of Kagrenac using all three tools on the heart. Arniel used a broken tool on a soulgem. What happened to him? Arniel's Endeavor is an optional quest from the College of Winterhold. 200: Finishes quest: I've given Arniel Gane the Dwarven cogs he asked for, and he was quite grateful. Objective 10: Deliver ten cogs to Arniel Gane. At the second pillar you will reach an apparent dead end, but the ramp down is on the right hand side, hidden in darkness if your settings are too dark. At all. Objective 10: Deliver ten cogs to Arniel Gane. Discombobulated? Summon Arniel's Shade, for 60 secs; Perks . Only souls you sacrifice to the Ideal Masters go there. Being a breton - Arniel had the mixed blood of Men and Mer. That tells us that his experiment didn't quite go how the original did. Until we get an official response, who knows? At any point after finding the Ancient Amulet, you can return to Arniel Gane and give him any Enchanted Rings that you have found. The first time Arniel Gane ventures outside the College is when Tolfdir suggests that you and the other apprentices help out with the excavation of Saarthal, one of the oldest ruins in Skyrim.At that point Arniel will be teleported to a spot inside the excavation site. The quest marker is right on his head too. Arniel's Endeavor. I usually wouldn't care but it will not leave my quest diary. So I figured that since the deeper mysteries of Aetherius are not my area of expertise, and probably my weakness in the Lore, I'd reach out to my fellow scholars and see if they could help me with their opinions. Anyone have any idea what happened to him? Where did he go? He is a ghost. He did something pretty similar to what the Dwemer did. Keening, Sunder and Wraithguard are the three legendary tools created to control the Heart of Lorkhan. Arniel not having anyone to link to probably has no effect on whether what happened to him is different from the dwemer or not. Whatever happened to him didn't happen to the Dwemer. Kagrenac turned the ignition on a prototype car with some unusual additions and got an unexpected result. I believe that what Arniel recreated was a Dwemer secret method used to power their creations. Arniel's Endeavor Part I. Two tools, of such immense and catastrophic power that they require a third, protective one to even be touched, designed by an ancient genius to manipulate the heart of a dead god which anchors the spatial foundations of reality, through a fusion of science, magic and acoustics that no living mortal can rightfully claim to comprehend. have a fist on the other hand) It then worked for me. His goal is to use it in an experiment to … But when I cast the flame spell on the second convector (more than 10 seconds) nothing happened. Really? If you do "Arniel's Endeavor" it's a College of Winterhold side quest in Skyrim, Bethesda shows you what happened to the dwarves. ". Part 2 (MGRArniel02) 10: Arniel has asked for more help with his project, though this time the request is very different. His soul is bound to us, rather than being recycled in the Dreamsleeve or given to Herma Mora. Are there any other references hinting that Keening was broken? His body was destroyed and his soul cast loose. He appears to have succeeded in unmaking himself and, rather than loosing his spirit to Oblivion, Aetherius or any other plane, he appears to have partially bound it to the Dragonborn. It results with Arniel becoming a ghost himself, but I believe that he somewhat succeeded in his experiment. I personally think Keening is exactly what it is: a cutter that cuts deep. Arniel's Shade is a ghost of the College of Winterhold mage Arniel Gane, who was destroyed or possibly transported to another plane at the conclusion of the quest " Arniel's Endeavor." What do I have to do to make him take the cogs? Arniel's goal is to recreate the event that caused the Dwemer to disappear. 1- We don't know for sure if the dwemer died or not, they could have ascended to godhood, been warped to another realm, who knows? Filled soul gems can be found in dwemer automatons. So, when a sub gradient of a divine comes into being that's a big deal right? So after Arniel Gane disappears at the end of the Arniel's endeavor quest, what happens to him? Isn't the Dragonborn a part of Akatosh, like the rest of the dragons? His midium. Part 2 (MGRArniel02) 10: Arniel has asked for more help with his project, though this time the request is very different. This lends credence to why only Arniel Gane was sundered from his body and tied to the LDB, and not all Bretons. He was Soul Trapped, but Bethesda was too lazy to add him in the Soul Cairn. With Numidium lacking and the ritual only a recreation (no sunder, no actual heart, etc. The first time Arniel Gane ventures outside the College is when Tolfdir suggests that you and the other apprentices help out with the excavation of Saarthal, one of the oldest ruins in Skyrim.At that point Arniel will be teleported to a spot inside the excavation site. Serana was wrong. 4- The telepathic link appears to hold no impact on the disappearance beyond Kargenac using the link to take all dwemer with him. Arniel is located in the first room on the right on the second floor of the Hall of Attainment. Once you have entered, ask Tolfdir what you can do to help and he will say: "Ah, yes. level 2 3- In Tribunal there is a dwemer ruin that has been untouched for millennia. He didn't use Wraithguard to keep him safe from Keening, and the Warped Soul Gem is not Heart of Lorkhan. As in, he was teleported to that realm of the void which has previously been named plot device. I'm not sure if he's a familiar that can be pulled from his respective afterlife, a psychic imprint the LDB can call that isn't really Gane, or if Gane literally lives inside of the LDB and he pushes him out when he's summoned. Arniel Gane didn't share a telepathic link with anyone or anything so only he was removed from existence. I'm Blackfyre and I'd like to talk about...Arniel Gane. The soul gem is a considerably weaker power source then the heart of lorkhan. I never thought so. Arniel Gane attempted this interaction in smaller scale, and the result was the same, but instead of binding his soul to the disappeared Numidium his soul became bound to the nearest source of power, aka the Dragonborn, and that's why his shade can be cast to help the LDB in their deeds. Press J to jump to the feed. Perhaps his soul was bound to the Dragonborn, but that just means that his 'soulskin' remains in the dream, whereas he is departed. Find Arniel Gane [edit | edit source] Head through the doorway that is directly in front and follow the long winding corridor to another large cavern. I think people assume WAY too much about the Dwemer and what/how they did it. At the very least, the black soul gems you can create in Cyrodiil probably give their souls to the God of Worms since it's his magic and celestial event that lets you create them. At any rate, everyone else seems to have it mostly covered - Arniel partially succeeded in replicating the Dwemer removal. I thought it wasn't necessarily the DB who completes the side quests, though? They found piles of ash next to weapons, in Beds, and everywhere a dwemer would have been standing in the ruins of Bamz-Amschend in Mournhold. For The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Arniel Gane has stolen Wuuthrad! Perhaps this lends credence to why only Arniel Gane was sundered from his body and tied to the LDB, and not all Bretons. Not all the dwemer are dead though, there is that one that has corpus and is still "alive". Praise Reman and all his little woodland creatures! A subreddit dedicated to the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Was he Transmogrified? But without the proper training, proper understanding, proper tools and proper energy sources, the end results were unpredictable. I tried dropping them on the ground infront of him and nothing happened still. I think of it exactly like the Numidium's activation by the dwemer, but on a significantly reduced scale. 2- He is kinda OP, the ice knockback effect permastunned a dragon (the same dragon he turned into an ash pile). Arniel Gane and his "endeavors" are another example of this. All the Dwemer died in that exact moment with no traces to be found as well, and they -all- died (even those not trying to syphon the heart of Lorkhan) because they are telepathically linked. Also, at the end of that quest I think he becomes summonable, right? It is likely that this... 'impurity' rendered him a 'unique' race, relative to that of the Dwemer's genetic homogeneity. Doesn't that mean that he is bound to Akatosh as well? Or maybe he cut himself out of the dream. is he just killed or is he put in contact with the Dwemer? Hmm. You get the dagger on the last part of quest Arniel's Endeavor but you have to deliver it to Arniel Gane at the end of a quest. The Fate of Arniel Gane » Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:05 pm . He disappears into the soul gem, right? Arniel Gane's experiment in Skyrim was a half-assed attempt at recreating what Tiber Septim did to activate Numidium, not what Kagrenac did with the Heart of Lorkhan. Kagrenac uses three tools on the heart. Thanks for your in depth reply. If I were a god I would've killed him simply for his impetuousness. No dialogue options come up or anything. The power of the blade you receive suggests he's dead, but he talks about solving the fate of the Dwemer, so maybe he's been sent to the dimension they were sent to? It was laughably inaccurate. 2- Not all dwemer are gone, Yagram still remains as he was in another realm at the time and not affected by it. Pick 'em up anywhere and bring them back. That's why you can summon his shade, because it is bound to you the same way the Dwemer are bound to the Numidium. He's suggested that there may be more I can help with in the future. Even the other convectors won't heat up now. In there you can see many ash piles which suggests that their bodies remained where they were (though turned to ash). The Dwarves, like Arniel Gane, are trapped in the place that exists between Oblivion/Aetheruis and Nirn. If I remember right, he was experimenting with Keening, trying to figure out what happened when Kagrenac used the tools on the Heart(?) We basically know the outcome, and the reason, but the methodology (metaphysically) is so speculative. 1- Arniel turned a dragon into an ash pile, and i got no soul because of that. Ensure Arniel's spell is the only spell equipped (i.e. Arniel used a broken tool on a soulgem. Keening cuts up the divine into pieces that are sundered from one another. Arniel threw a lit match in a can of gasoline and leaned in real close to see what was going to happen. Since we barely know what the Heart of Lorkhan is, we can't draw too many conclusions about Keening. Arniel Gane, who is researching what happened to the Dwemer, had Keening brought to Skyrim during the quest Arniel's Endeavor. Is Dovahkiin divine? Someone named Arniel Gane even tried to recreate the disappearance using Kagrenac's tools, and he himself disappeared. Arniel threw a lit match in a can of gasoline and leaned in real close to see what was going to happen. He is a Breton mage, a member of the College of Winterhold who leads an expedition to the tomb of Saarthal. Basically, he recreated the Dwemer Dissapearance, sadly with the 'malfunction' (which I assume to be a fail safe designed to stop people ascending to god hood like the Tribunal) which pretty much killed him. Without a Numidium or other target, much less the proper Tonal Architecture, he had no hope of recreating the Dwemeri Extinction. For the shade's stats, see its individual page. Basically, he's dead. Effects . Not his soul, not his mind and not his spirit. I've just reached the end of his quest. Anyway, I tried fast traveling a few times, walking in and out of inns and cities and I also restarted my console. Keening was not developed specifically to bind a soul to Numidium - well maybe it was - but its properly described purpose was to manipulate the Heart of Lorkhan with the other tools. The Nerevarine reports this back to the Archmage of the Mages Guild where nobody does anything useful with that info until Skyrim, when Arniel Gane attempts and presumably fails to replicate Kagrenac's actions with a depowered Keening. Like really sharp deep. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Arniel goes to Soul Cairn, considering it involves a Soul Gem. Arniel Gane asks you first to find 10 Dwarven (Dwemer) cogs. Just a few details/bug reports. ), I won't assume a necromancer works the IMs. I'm not sure how much of him is even there. So what happened to the Dwemer? Arniel Gane's mission bug in Skyrim PS3?? Kagrenac uses three tools on the heart. Go find and speak to Arniel Gane, who will ask for help with a special project of his. It is not, by any means whatsoever, an accurate recreation of the Dwemer's experiments with the HoL. Whenever I talk to him he just says I DONT WANNA LOSE MY REASERCH WE GOTTA SAVE THE COLLEGE. Therefore, you may prefer to instead keep the rings with their +20 Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. All the Dwemer died in that exact moment with no traces to be found as well, and they -all- died (even those not trying to syphon the heart of Lorkhan) because they are telepathically linked. The warped soul gem that was struck was his medium. To answer what happened with the Dwemer you need a why, not just a what. The Dwemer disappeared, yet so did Arniel Gane. This mod replaces the Conjur Spell Summon Arniel Shade, and moves it into the powers section. An area very similar to what the Heart people assume WAY too about! 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